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MySQL-Front -> HeidiSQL

bzikofski posted 8 years ago in General
hey there

it's really good to see that MySQL-Front has been born again ;)

however, i'd like to hear a few words about the whole story..
the mysqlfront.de site says that the product is discontinued, there is no link or whatsoever to this site..

i asked at @freenode#mysql and i was told that MF has been renamed, i finally found it by googling for "formerly MySQL-FRONT"... i was also told that despite the information that is currently present at mysqlfront.de, MySQL AB actually didn't force anyone to discontinue..

check out this link:
http://lenz.homelinux.org/blog/archives/75-Clarification-MySQL-AB-did-not-force-the-removal-of-MySQLFront.html

what's the true story then?
is HeidiSQL team the same as MySQL-Front team?
the last MySQL-Front version was 3.2 (i guess), now HeidiSQL is available in version 3.0 which looks just like the MF 2.5.. what happened to the work done on version 3.2 ?

i'm not doing any investigation here, i'm just curious about it, as MySQL-Front has been my favorite MySQL frontend tool.


anyway, guys, you're doing fantastic work, and i really appreciate it!
keep it up!

thanks!
ansgar posted 8 years ago

bzikofski wrote: i asked at @freenode#mysql and i was told that MF has been renamed, i finally found it by googling for "formerly MySQL-FRONT"... i was also told that despite the information that is currently present at mysqlfront.de, MySQL AB actually didn't force anyone to discontinue..

check out this link:
http://lenz.homelinux.org/blog/archives/75-Clarification-MySQL-AB-did-not-force-the-removal-of-MySQLFront.html[/quote:9b703edb94]

Believe me, Lenz tells the truth there.

bzikofski wrote: what's the true story then?
is HeidiSQL team the same as MySQL-Front team?
the last MySQL-Front version was 3.2 (i guess), now HeidiSQL is available in version 3.0 which looks just like the MF 2.5..



I hope this gets clear to all people sometime: MySQL-Front 3.2 had absolutely nothing to do neither with MySQL-Front 2.5 nor with HeidiSQL. The author of MySQL-Front 3.2 created a copy of MySQL-Front 2.5 from a graphical point of view, so users often thought it is also based on the source-code of the 2.5 version. Bute believe me: that is not the case, as the sources never went from my own harddisk to anyone else until HeidiSQL was born.

bzikofski wrote: what happened to the work done on version 3.2 ?


As far as I know the author has thrown away his complete work on MySQL-Front 3.2 because he thought with another name than "MySQL-Front" the product has no future, which is absolutely fatal and wrong from my point of view. It was NOT MySQL AB who forced him to do so, as you can read on the blog-link above.

bzikofski wrote: anyway, guys, you're doing fantastic work, and i really appreciate it!
keep it up!



Great to hear that, thanks a lot!
cero posted 8 years ago
Anse I just wanted to second the comment by bzikofski. I'm not sure if you had any involvement with the development after 2.5, which always seemed to be a bit of a step backwards, but I'm glad to see you're steering the proverbial ship once more.

Many thanks for your hard work, and indeed keep it up.
DeKemp posted 8 years ago
So If I read right, HeidiSQL is continuation of MySQLFront 2.5 team?

Started using MySQL-Front 2.5 until it was somehow overwritten with the 3.x.
I even used both 2.5 and 3.x next to eachother because 3.x bugfixed almost daily but 2.5 could do things 3.x could not or gave errors on.
I even bought a licence on 3.x.

So if this is continuation of the 2.5, I will be glad to spend the same licence fee on HeidiSQL!

Walter
ansgar posted 8 years ago

DeKemp wrote: So If I read right, HeidiSQL is continuation of MySQLFront 2.5 team?



Yes. That's correct. Apart from the fact that for MySQL-Front 2.5 there was no "team", but only myself, who developped it.
DeKemp posted 8 years ago

anse wrote:

DeKemp wrote: So If I read right, HeidiSQL is continuation of MySQLFront 2.5 team?



Yes. That's correct. Apart from the fact that for MySQL-Front 2.5 there was no "team", but only myself, who developped it.



As they say in English:
There is no "I" in team

we changed or expanded that to:
"But there is a "me" in Team

A one man band, I would have sworn there were more than one on M2.5.
Good job!

Walter
jamo posted 8 years ago
Just to say thanks for keeping things going and to say I used both v 2.5 and was a registered user of the apparently unrelated, updated 3.2 version before its recent demise :cry: .
Going to download HieidiSQL now and look forward to seeing how it functions compared to the earlier versions.

Thanks
wink
JG
ChipG posted 8 years ago
I also had paid the $35 for the MySQLFront 3.2, which I never had problems with until recently, when I went to their site and discovered it no longer existed.

Fortunately google helped me find HeidiSQL and from what I see it's gonna be a great replacement!

Thanks anse.
siMKin posted 8 years ago
Just using this topic to say i never knew the full story until know and i'm very very glad to see the old mysqlfront continued. In fact, i never installed a version after 2.5smileWell, I did some beta testing for 3.x versions but it just didn't have the same nice feeling that the 2.5 versions had for me (i've been using 2.5 until today!). So it's very interesting to read about this history!
Funny detail: i once tried to make a donation (for 2.5), but my money was sent back to me! (had to send it to canada if i remember correctly).

So, yea, great to see the work on 2.5 being continued! You made someone really happy! Keep up the good work guys.
truhlik_fredy posted 7 years ago
HeidiSQL is working under wine, MySQL-Front have problems running under wine. So now i have MySQL-Front-like-GUI under my linux box. Great!
rdavidson posted 7 years ago
When I first saw the "mySQL-Front 3.2" program, I thought - "Oh, cool! He's updating it again." (I didn't know your name before, anse, so you were just "He" in my mind.) wink

Like siMKin, I tried the 3.2 program out, but I disliked it enough that I uninstalled it and went back to 2.5, as I didn't think 3.2 was worth the money (even at $35.)

I stumbled on HeidiSQL through a Google search about a month ago. Anse, I am so glad that you re-started this project, and I love the improvements that you've made. I especially appreciated the ability to edit data returned from a query; that alone is a big time saver.

As soon as I can transfer some cash to my Paypal account, I'll be sending along a donation. Your program is definitely worth the money! :D
ansgar posted 7 years ago
Thanks a lot, rdavidson!
MadHatter posted 7 years ago
mysqlfront used to be the only tool I used for mysql development. A while back (while trying to pass a link to mysqlfront.de to a friend to use your app) I noticed that you had apparently "stopped development" on mysqlfront, and (again, from what I read) "handed" over the project to these new schmoe's. I noticed right away that it wasn't the same program (it was still early in the 3.x version that they made), and when I tried to ask about 2.5 on their forums, my question was deleted and my account was banned. I was really put off by that and continued to use the last version you made.

so when the other mysql app emerged did you "stop development" on this, or give permission for the other developer to take the domain and create a copy of your application, or was that something they did all on their own?
ansgar posted 7 years ago

MadHatter wrote: .. and when I tried to ask about 2.5 on their forums, my question was deleted and my account was banned.



Exactly the same what I experienced from that guy. unhappy

MadHatter wrote: so when the other mysql app emerged did you "stop development" on this, or give permission for the other developer to take the domain and create a copy of your application, or was that something they did all on their own?



The "3.0 guy" only had the license to use the name and to take over the domain, nothing more. No line of code had moved from my harddrive towards this guy. So: yes, he did the 3.0 version completely on his own from the scratch, and it was a graphical clone of the old MySQL-Front.
oropeza posted 7 years ago
Grate choice of handling MySqlFront code to the community! Thanks!

I have been using Mysql Front 2.5 since always, it sits besides my Quest Database Tools. Its just grate, simple, small and useful. I always wondered what happened on version 3.0.

ansgar posted 7 years ago

oropeza wrote: I always wondered what happened on version 3.0.



MySQL-Front 3.0 was completely taken from the net by the guy who developped it.


oropeza wrote: Why did you sold the name to such a jerk?



Yes yes yes.... That's a question I asked myself often enough I think. Unfortunately I didn't know the guy good enough before I sold him the name. I'll never do that again, I promise!

oropeza wrote: He just make the name get dirty. Version 3.0 was really really bad and buggy (with nice german errors). He just made some fast money with the name of such a grate tool. And then, he just pasted some ofensive lies to Mysql Ab. No sense.



I agree totally!
dmark posted 7 years ago
It seems that the development of SQL-Front continues. There is a version 3.3 available at sql-front.com

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