move /detach /reorganise output panes

[expired user #8479]'s profile image [expired user #8479] posted 9 years ago in General Permalink
Hi,
I need a better view of the time query,
actually the only place where i can see it is in the
output panel at the bottom. I'd like to detach this pane or reorganise this pane to the left , is it possible ?

another option for me should be to putt the result query time at somewhere at the top..

thx,
gui
jfalch's profile image jfalch posted 9 years ago Permalink
both are not possible. panes can neither be detached nor moved relative to one another.
[expired user #8479]'s profile image [expired user #8479] posted 9 years ago Permalink
:( is it in the roadmap ? is there any roadmap ? it could be a usefull feature i guess..

gui
jfalch's profile image jfalch posted 9 years ago Permalink
you must ask ansgar (the developer) about that. AFAIK this would mean replacing a major part of the GUI ...
ansgar's profile image ansgar posted 9 years ago Permalink
The SQL log panel is not movable, no. I think most users like it that way, as it stays there without catching too much looks.
[expired user #8479]'s profile image [expired user #8479] posted 9 years ago Permalink
ok..
[expired user #8479]'s profile image [expired user #8479] posted 9 years ago Permalink
but im pretty sure most users will like putting a query time information somewhere at the top , its an important information for anyone tune his query..

gui
ansgar's profile image ansgar posted 9 years ago Permalink
Oh, there is a way to do that for you. Just activate "Query profile" on the right box, so you'll see a detailed report of the query segments timings:
[expired user #8479]'s profile image [expired user #8479] posted 9 years ago Permalink
year i saw this one, a very good option indeed , the only pb is i can't increase the font size of this output and i ensure you, on my screan.. you cannot safely work with this font size, from an eyes point of view :)
[expired user #8479]'s profile image [expired user #8479] posted 9 years ago Permalink
if you add an option to increase this font-size output you will my year better, the best chrismass day lol,im serious

gui
ansgar's profile image ansgar posted 9 years ago Permalink
Can you send a link to a screenshot of how it looks like for you? I don't own such a screen, so it's hard to imagine how it looks like.
[expired user #8479]'s profile image [expired user #8479] posted 9 years ago Permalink
sure but im not sure that will render the reality..
believe me , all are seriously too small, i didn't use the win8 scale option because its just a blur.


[expired user #8479]'s profile image [expired user #8479] posted 9 years ago Permalink
[expired user #8479]'s profile image [expired user #8479] posted 9 years ago Permalink
img seems not displaying , here is the link
http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=320302heidiview.png
[expired user #8479]'s profile image [expired user #8479] posted 9 years ago Permalink
you'll cannot see my render because ur screan resolution doesn't change. This screenshot for me is small , but for you it could be very big in fact.. An idea is to go in a store and look this image on a test desktop , this is my technique to see a real render for my websites , i go to the fnac lol
[expired user #8479]'s profile image [expired user #8479] posted 9 years ago Permalink
or if you give me ur screan resolution i will be able to
make a screanshot corresponce by toshop and you'll have an aproximative idea of what i see
ansgar's profile image ansgar posted 9 years ago Permalink
So, you increased the data font size and the SQL code font size?

Windows already provides large fonts, why don't you use that?

I guess as soon as I provide an option for enlarging the helpers tree, you ask to add an option for all the other things (menus, tree, etc.) which should also be too small for you, or?
[expired user #8479]'s profile image [expired user #8479] posted 9 years ago Permalink
i increased all font-size that heidisql allow .
Use windows to increase the scale isnot an option, if you google it u'll see that this windows feature is just a very poor zoom
who make the whole blury.

As all other guys who use an hight dpi screan , heidisql icons appear too small too and pixelised..

whats ur screan resolution ? , i'll resend you the correct screanshot with all default heidisql option so you'll can see how it render on hight dpi
ansgar's profile image ansgar posted 9 years ago Permalink
I have a full hd (1920*1080) 17 inch notebook.
[expired user #8479]'s profile image [expired user #8479] posted 9 years ago Permalink
i made the nessaceray to convert it correctly, what you sse is what i see now.
here is the screanshot:
http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=133160realviewheidi.png
[expired user #8479]'s profile image [expired user #8479] posted 9 years ago Permalink
litle up, any chance to increase font-size of time query tunning ?!
accessibility..please, my eys are old..
ansgar's profile image ansgar posted 9 years ago Permalink
I'm thinking: most Windows GUIs don't provide their own setting for increasing its font size. For a good reason: Windows already provides the font scaling option. I understand that you made blurry experiences with that, but how did you then manage to read other tools' menus and dialogs?
[expired user #8479]'s profile image [expired user #8479] posted 9 years ago Permalink
you said 'most windows gui', so you think most windows program are good developped with serious developper ?!.. look im developper too, allowing font size is a basic ergonomic question related to the accessibility in general http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_accessibility
Now if you want an example of serious developpers who care about that, just look inside jetbrain soft
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_accessibility
You are free to make what you want but please don't arg 'most windows gui' because most is often minus ..
[expired user #8479]'s profile image [expired user #8479] posted 9 years ago Permalink
take a look at phpstorm and you''ll see what is a serious gui who take care about accessibility and ergonomic :
https://www.jetbrains.com/phpstorm/

Is it so hard to add this option, in thinking to make it for you and for all of us, seriously..
ansgar's profile image ansgar posted 9 years ago Permalink
I'm not saying anything about good or bad developers. I'm just saying that there is a feature in Windows for which application developers don't need to reinvent the wheel. That's all. And when I say "most", I mean more than 90%. PhpStorm does not even look like a Windows application, so you cannot compare that to HeidiSQL.
[expired user #8479]'s profile image [expired user #8479] posted 9 years ago Permalink
ok but thats not the question, the real question is , do you care about people who can't see like you because they haven't got your eyes and ur age..accessibility.. I took tine to sent you screanshot, if all thoses things are ok for you, there are no reasons to discuss, you probably make some change when you will concern by the situation, a ton of peoples just have to wait you buy your future screan..frustrated
ansgar's profile image ansgar posted 9 years ago Permalink
For testing reasons, I just inserted a call to TWinControl.ScaleBy(2, 1) into a central method. This doubles the font size of nearly all controls, and is meant to be called when users have a non-96-DPI setting. See the following screeny. Note that quite a few controls, such as the main menu, the button toolbar and some more do not scale here. Call this a bug in HeidiSQL or in Delphi or in Windows if you want. I don't know. But it does not really look ok to me:
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[expired user #8479]'s profile image [expired user #8479] posted 9 years ago Permalink
by this way its sur, its not the good method for achieve it, all thoses things are not serious..
ansgar's profile image ansgar posted 2 years ago Permalink

@gui, please note HeidiSQL has high DPI support since v12.0, which should render any text sharp.

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